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Glenn Luk's avatar

"... others have endorsed it explicitly and used it to argue that China’s economic model is superior"

Noah, this is actually not my position on this. My position is that China's economic model is fit to China and the unique set of conditions that it operates on at this point in history.

Broadly speaking, I do not believe you can wholesale remove a system and set of policies from their underlying conditions and apply it to another situation with a whole different set of underlying conditions.

Specifically with respect to industrial policy in the United States, I very much go back and forth on whether trying to implement China-style industrial policy in the United States would work (or even backfire) because of major differences in those underlying conditions.

What I do think is important is gaining an accurate understanding of how things work in China (including industrial policy) because there are direct impacts to the U.S. and global economy. Indeed, the optimal response may ultimately have to be doing something completely different because what works under one set of conditions (China) will often not work under a completely different set of ones (e.g. in the U.S.).

Edit - my thoughts in response: https://x.com/glennluk/status/1814356615476236792?s=61

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I like this a lot. I’ve always opposed your support for industrial policy because I assumed it was rooted in arguments for economic vitality. But I would agree; national security is unambiguously a benefit of effectively targeted industrial policy.

I would also say the concern here is that virtually any rent seeking industry is going to make the national security argument because they know it resonates. And I think the US has really fallen victim to that, as its proponents in DC have also tried to make things about national security which are not about national security.

This argument is also interesting because it is disjointed from what appears to be the primary reason industrial policy enjoys whatever popular support it enjoys: 1. Bringing low skilled jobs back to the US (I would argue that industrial policy to achieve this is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound; it’s a superficial solution that doesn’t address the underlying problem and 2. As a means of countering globalization.

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