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Kathleen Weber's avatar

"the economic cost China would pay from going to war"

Noah's argument has a glaring flaw. He talks about the economic downside of war primarily as a loss of access to foreign markets. The biggest and decisive economic cost would be the destruction of all those gigantic factories situated along the coast within easy reach of American missiles. American means of production are by no means as vulnerable. We don't need to target civilian residential areas. Doubtless the destruction of several hundred factories, the factories where the Chinese people work, would make a vivid impression and make It obvious to them how wrong headed their leadership is.

Indeed, war might even be prevented by the US pointing this out to Chinese leadership.

We all know that Xi wants a leaner, meaner China, but despite his current frustration, he is also aware that the Chinese people have their limits. They don't want to see the country go 30 years in reverse.

I have many thoughts more thoughts on this issue, and a few of them are expressed in my Substack post.

Are the United States and China “At Each Other’s Throats?”

https://kathleenweber.substack.com/

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Edward Hackett's avatar

The forest analogy leaves out one other possibility. If the forrest is large enough, selective cutting will allow for the taking of mature trees, giving the youngr ones room to grow. If done correctly, this will allow the forrest to survive for a long period of time. This has been accomplished in the Southern portion of the United States and has worked for over 100 years. Some reports seem to indicate that todays forrest is larger and more productive than ever before. Selective cutting also allows for the removal of brush and this provides less fuel for forrest fires.

In the past, wars provided away for countries or empires to grow and become richer, but that is no longer possible. War is so destructive that the captured terriorty is basically worhtless - from an economic perspective.

The one thing China would gain, but only in their own belief perspective, is to capture a run away territory that they feel should be under their control. They have destroyed any semblence of freedom in Hong Kong and they would do the same in Taiwan. Resistence to Chinese control will be very strong and could lead to a nuclear exchnage between China nd America. If so, everyone loses.

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