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Don Bemont's avatar

The first thing to note is that the progressive failure you describe (breaking things, creating chaos) creates strong support for right wing extremism.

And right wing extremism, at least as ineptly practiced by Trump's administration, creates similar support for left wing extremism.

And in each case, moderates pretty much have to follow their extremists. Those anti-ICE protesters might be standing for vastly more extreme positions than I would ever support, but hey, fuck masked government agents shooting protesters and ignoring all manner of the law.

For me, it is a little unclear what your piece is implying. That both extremes are failing, so moderates will inherit the earth? Or that both extremes are failing, so America is pretty much screwed?

At the moment, I lean very much towards the latter. I am quite sure that the majority of Americans actually prefer moderation, but contrary to myth, majority doesn't rule.

In large part, it's the technological shift in mass communications. It's not just that social media "provides these extremists a platform in which their emotionally charged messages are more likely to go viral than messages of positivity and reason." It's that almost everyone is more drawn to the sensational, the outrageous, the enraging. Which is why The Washington Post did fine under Bezos during Trump I but fell apart during Biden -- extreme, attention-grabbing crap is the lifeblood of media and politics in this era.

But yeah, at this point, power positions like congressional staffers and legacy media writers and influencers are filled with people committed to various forms of extremism. Once the print era got into high gear, illiterate people simply didn't matter much, regardless of fine words about all being created equal. Now it's a different era and a different set of people do (and do not) matter. And it's hard for print people to wrap their heads around, because they (we) analyze in terms of policies and majorities and rationality and so on.

Mike Huben's avatar

Another big disappointment from Noah. In his quest for both-siderism, he conflates left, liberal, and progressive once again. For example, he says "Liberals built the public libraries", but that is just wrong: the push for libraries was progressive, and I don't know how he would explain Andrew Carnegie (for example) as a liberal. Nor is there a counterpart to the billionaire-supported, coordinated, organized, right-wing movement that created Reaganism, the Tea Party, and MAGA.

A better way to write articles would be to focus on problems of one thing at a time, conservative, liberal, left or progressive, rather than this sort of messy, combined pseudo-analysis.

In that respect, Noah's analysis of self-destructiveness in the MAGA coalition is much better, though I think he misses two big ideas. The first is that the core of MAGA is white supremacist and Christian Dominionist. Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, etc. can delude themselves that they can join in if they are in the middle or upper classes, but they are really being exploited for their support by a core that despises them. The second is that this is a strategy by the ultra wealthy to keep the lower classes divided and controllable by giving them reasons to despise each other for race, religion, culture, class, and other excuses. It is simply appeal to a natural desire to feel superior to others in some way. The way poor white trash can say "at least I'm not a n-word". And now all those minority groups are in the FAFO stage with MAGA.

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