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Another point of view to consider: Mass deportations would require that the government builds up a vast machine of oppression. Once it is in place and deportations have been successful (assuming this for the sake of argument), this machine will not be dismantled (which bureaucracy ever is?). So the deportation machine will be used for other purposes, which is likely to oppress other people (history tells us that there is always another minority one can find to oppress).

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"The overall effect on the cost of living should be relatively small, just like the overall effect on wages"

Overall, maybe, but for who specifically? The upper class is protected from the labor supply shock because laws against employing illegal immigrants are actually enforced for our jobs. So we benefit from the cost decreases while not experiencing the wage cuts. The working class is not so lucky. And at this time when inequality is straining social cohesion this is probably a bad move.

"reducing wages also reduces costs, which drives down the cost of living."

But only if those changes are exactly the same amount. And it is implausible that they would be. Labor costs are not the only costs of a product. So let's say that in a hypothetical economy labor costs account for overall 50% of the cost of living. If you have mass immigration that reduces labor costs by 50% the cost of living will drop by only 25%. So this is clearly bad for workers because their pay dropped by half but their cost of living only went down by 25%.

"it’ll probably make food and other goods more expensive nationwide thanks to the sudden shortage of workers."

Indeed it will. When I studied abroad in Denmark I noticed that the cost of living was much higher. Food, and in particular restaurants, was much more expensive than back home. But at the same time those workers at that restaurant were paid way more. You can make an argument that our way is better, but you are also not a restaurant worker.

"Certainly, big surges of immigration can put a strain on local government finances in the areas that receive them — witness what happened to New York City when red-state governors sent large numbers of asylum-seekers there, and the city struggled to house and care for them all"

True, but I would have said it another way: witness what happened to Texas when the blue-state based political elite sent large numbers of asylum-seekers there with their open borders policy, and the state struggled to house and care for them all"

"estimate that refugees, specifically, end up contributing about $21,000 more to the government than they take out, over their first 20 years in the country"

That's not very much. And the numbers are cherry picked. "Their first 20 years" is nicely designed to only account for only prime working years since these "refugees" tend to come young. That $21K positive contribution will be eaten up after only one year of Social Security and Medicare costs, so this person will clearly be a net fiscal negative over his lifetime. This is what Denmark found when they ran the numbers on it and I doubt that it would be different here: https://imgur.com/a/y2Kw9YC

"a policy where crossing the border illegally carries zero consequences isn’t quite the same thing as open borders"

The differ in only one thing. An actual open borders policy would, if nothing else, be honest.

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