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Dave MacLeod's avatar

Agreed. Decoupling has also happened here in Korea a little bit earlier than the rest of the world after China's relation for the THAAD missile defense system where they all of a sudden banned just about everything Korean with complete opacity. The Korean government was fairly meek about the whole thing (because China is totally unpredictable) but quietly just started moving production out of China and investment has completely dried up. In 2019 Samsung completely moved out: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_closes_its_last_smartphone_factory_in_china-news-39442.php

Lotte moved out by 2022: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2022/05/419_329617.html

And so on and so forth. And that was under President Moon whose party is the more pro-Chinese of the two. (Not exceptionally pro-Chinese because nobody in Korea is, but their party will err on the side of worsening relations with Japan while playing nice with China and riffing with them on things like the Fukushima water release plan)

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What would be nice would be for the West’s billionaires to understand that it is the political-economic system built by the west that allowed them to live the lives of luxury they lead and to show a little bit of gratitude and some bloody patriotism, I really don’t think it’s too much to ask

So when the Chinese Govt asks the NBA or EPL to silence its players or block out images to protect their delicate sensibilities or they will stop the NBA and EPL from being shown in China they should tell Xi and the Wolf Warriors that we live in a free country and will do no such thing and then let them explain to their millions of sports fans why they can’t watch these sports anymore

When China asks Disney to change scripts to be shown in China they should tell them ‘No way’ and let the CCP explain to its ppl why they can’t watch Marvel movies anymore

Manufacturers are another issue but should recognise the ‘corruption’ campaigns are a danger to them and start moving to other SE Asian nations

But the cultural stuff is the powerful stuff, if Blue Jeans and Rock n Roll helped bring down the Iron Curtain and free millions from dictatorship then maybe Lebron James and Spider-Man can do the same for the Bamboo curtain and free the billion Chinese ppl from their autocratic rulers

But that would require some patriotism from ppl who have more reason to be patriotic than most, the people who have benefited most from the system that the west built but prepared to do the least to defend it

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