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Robert Ford's avatar

Got my appt. Wenesday for my first shot. If anything happens to me Smith, you can have my stereo.

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Noah Smith's avatar

*stoic face with single tear*

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Robert Ford's avatar

...but NO K-pop!

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Noah Smith's avatar

Godspeed

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Michael Haley's avatar

are you going to post this on twitter? it needs to get out there, will retweet asap. I was trying to run down the problem tonight and even the NY Times had not nailed the info as well as you have.

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Noah Smith's avatar

Yep, tweeted it already and I'll do a thread tomorrow.

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Richard Treitel's avatar

Trust Israel to actually protect its citizens. I hear they're even vaccinating on Shabbat, and the official who approved this is Orthodox.

The UK can chalk one up for socialised medicine. Our Boris has been almost as idiotic as your Donald, but the NHS was prepared, since there was nowhere to pass the buck.

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悪魔城下町's avatar

America would trade Trump for Boris in a heartbeat.

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Michael Haley's avatar

excellent, thanks for taking this up

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Noah Smith's avatar

I'll do what I can!

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Rory Hester's avatar

As you already know, I'm here working in Texas (you must be so glad you escaped!)... I will be pissed if I get covid before I get a shot in February, and does expire.

I will take that shot today.

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悪魔城下町's avatar

This is so sad, and it's also sad that it's not surprising at all based on how everything else COVID-related was handled this year in America. Unfortunately, I don't think things are going to change until after Trump's upteenth autogolpe attempt on the 6th, and even until after Biden's inauguration. America looks utterly paralyzed compared to merely dysfunctional UK and Israel. I really hope they can get their act together over there. 😰😰😰

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Grayson Reim's avatar

One Thing:

- For real, the lack of coordination here is insane!

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Nicole's avatar

I work in an ICU. I wish the public could see the reality of COVID-19 in the hospital setting. Once patients are on maximum 02 requirements on a vapotherm and or/non rebreather they will almost certainly need to be intubated. Covid patients go to the ICU to die, we only successfully extubate about 10 percent of our Covid patients. If you are over the age of sixty and have any comorbities you are not immune, it could be you. I had a patient in her early fifties suffer a long, drawn out miserable death alone. Her only risk factor was mild asthma. Even if you are not high risk you could kill a family member or friend. I have seen patients die because a daughter, brother and aunt gave it to them. I could go on and on telling absolutely heartbreaking and gut wrenching stories. It is difficult to convey the brutality of covid when it progresses. These patients look and smell of death for weeks on end alone in an ICU until they finally succumb. PLEASE get yourself and loved ones vaccinated as soon as possible.

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Nicole's avatar

To be clear the outcomes for intubated patients in the ICU I work in weren’t quite this poor in the spring and summer. There are probably several reasons for that. Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to express how difficult it is to watch these patients suffer and I wish people would take it more seriously.

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Sammy's avatar

I sympathize with the desire for random vaccination so that shots don’t spoil, but think that for the time being this should be limited to 65+ year olds that would receive the most benefit. There is plenty of demand in that age bracket to exceed supply, and some counties are even allowing out of county/state residents to register so long as they’re over 65 (https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/12/31/pasco-county-begins-drive-thru-covid-19-vaccinations-for-seniors). The hand wringing over whether to give "essential workers" or the elderly priority can be sidestepped by allowing any in those two groups (a wide but not total swath of the population) access to walk-up vaccine programs.

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Cary's avatar

So glad America decided to elect a "populist" rather than the dreaded "technocrat" in 2016 (one who was described as "over prepared" as a perjorative by our amazing political punditry)

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Jake Thompson's avatar

America is finished. Learn to speak Mandarin and pray that our new overlords show mercy on our pathetic corpses.

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Griff's avatar

I think the list of billionaires who can help is wrong — Musk is more likely to fund opposition to vaccination, given his politics.

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Noah Smith's avatar

Some people get vaccinated after already being infected. Also, the vaccine takes maybe 10-14 days to start giving protection. So this isn't surprising at all.

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Rory Hester's avatar

Also, vaccine reduces severity of disease even if it doesn't prevent it. (pre loads immune system)

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Al's avatar

Yeah, and it's 95% effective (remarkably good, but of course not 100%) after receiving the second dose. That headline, ugh.

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悪魔城下町's avatar

Sensational headline immediately tempered by rest of article.

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UserFriendlyyy's avatar

The biggest constraint is the broad bipartisan consensus that the government should be murdering as many poor people as possible.

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悪魔城下町's avatar

I think you mean the Republican consensus. Democrats have wanted to give people more money since the summer and weren't the ones telling people not to wear masks.

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UserFriendlyyy's avatar

I guarantee you, if there was any chance of it passing the democrats would not be aiming high. What do you call a party that refused to pass a $1.8 trillion stimulus so they could win the presidency? That won't even bring single payer up for a vote, but would veto it even if it passed. Both parties want all poor people dead, quite explicitly, for decades now.

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