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Red Lizard's avatar

The fact that she is not a rapist or a fascist fuck is all I need to know.

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Neeraj Krishnan's avatar

You left out an important piece: Is there any weird capitalization in the document??

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Noah Smith's avatar

I was Relieved not to Find any.

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Andre L Pelletier's avatar

NOt wEird EnOuGH

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DougAz's avatar

Great stuff. My small step proposal is:

Buy Pills like Bullets.

A. CMS/HHS is the sole buyer of all drugs

B. Generics are bid out like DFAR DoD contracts. Either cost-plus or FFP (Firm Fixed Price).

B.1 because companies like Teva Pharmaceutical have bought up many generic competitors making a monopoly of generics.

C. New brand drugs are also purchased. They can bid by US march in rights on Patents if a reasonable cost-plus price is not acceptable to the manufacturer.

D. The US NIH etc already funds billions for drug research. Like Defense companies, DoD now HHS can fund 2 or more Pharmaceutical companies to do targeted research. Also if Pharmaceutical co like Defense co, use internal funding (IRAD), that guarantees the Pharmaceutical company some share of sales participation and ROI

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Buzen's avatar

Defense procurement policies result in companies spending all their resources on lobbying and proposals and then end up charging the government $600 for toilet seats, after long schedule overruns, so look forward to $6 aspirin tablets. Look at how much the Space Launch Alliance (Boeing and Lockheed/Martin) with their cost plus contracts spend to launch a rocket compared to SpaceX.

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Doug S.'s avatar

The infamous $600 toilet seat was an artifact of military accounting, since it also included all the overhead costs associated with buying a batch of toilet seats (such as paying the wages of the people who have to implement the purchase), not just how much money the manufacturer was paid per seat.

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NubbyShober's avatar

Totally agree on A-C. Regarding D, however, NIH research funding (that's around $10bn/year) is largely in the hands of Big Pharma, who generally determine grant recipients. And except in cases of national emergency--e.g., Aids epidemic, COVID--focus on developing new drugs with high profit potential; instead of broader public benefit. Ending Big Pharma's regulatory capture of NIH--or at least moderating it--would be better for consumers.

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Greg Steiner's avatar

How about a Netflix model? Everyone pays the $X each year ($2000 if you want to use the proposed maximum). If it is on the market and your doctor prescribes it, you get it. Any money left over goes to the NIH for funding R&D. This forces negotiations between public and private insurers and the pharmaceutical companies and makes life a whole lot simpler for the consumers. Companies and the ACA can subsidize the payment if they want.

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Greg Costigan's avatar

It’s very good policy across the board. Why she needs to win.

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Siddhartha Roychowdhury's avatar

Why is it that when it comes to energy or housing traditional economics like increasing the supply is considered the right policy but when it comes to controlling costs in the healthcare system, the same strategy cannot be pursued? I know the answer to that - every part of the healthcare delivery system has a lot of lobbying power and there are a lot of sacred cows who cannot be harmed by either party. Just expected more honesty on this instead of BS like negotiating drug prices is the best way to lower costs.

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Noah Smith's avatar

Well, that's one reason. There are others. But supply and demand definitely do operate in the health care system.

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Siddhartha Roychowdhury's avatar

Good to see that others are also talking about the lack of conversation around the abundance agenda in healthcare.

https://x.com/pahlkadot/status/1844885634831327569

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NubbyShober's avatar

Congress first needs to modify, repeal or replace the GOP's Medicare Part D law, passed under the GW Bush Admin, that expressly FORBIDS the federal government from collectively negotiating drug prices with Big Pharma. Which is the reason why Americans still pay 200-1000% more than consumers in countries like Canada for identical meds; and are banned by law from importing Rx's of these much cheaper meds from Canada.

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Siddhartha Roychowdhury's avatar

The IRA has removed the ban I believe, which is why the Biden administration was able to negotiate the prices of 10 drugs.

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Greg G's avatar

Housing is in principle a pretty competitive market that is mostly constrained by local regulations that prevent more building. So reducing the level of regulation to increase supply seems like a no-brainer.

I agree with your sacred cows point. I think if we want to increase supply in healthcare it will be a more complex process than just putting it in a candidate's platform and running straight at it. Maybe more fiddling with medical school and residency caps? Creating more retail healthcare areas similar to Lasik? Finding more ways to put remote or automated options into the loop? AI-based systems seem like they will soon start making a big difference here, regulation permitting.

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Siddhartha Roychowdhury's avatar

Apart from the presence of lots of interested buyers, housing is in fact not a very competitive market. The barrier to entry is high because it’s costly to acquire land and obtain permits to build a home, construction costs are high. It’s bought and sold infrequently so the kind of advantage that consumers have when they purchase frequently purchased items is missing. There’s a lot of information asymmetry because the bids are not open. The transaction costs are high because of agent fees and other costs associated with buying/selling a house.

The product is not homogeneous or fungible.

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Buzen's avatar

Totally agree. And capping out of pocket costs at $2000 would be great for me since my ACA silver policy has a $7000 deductible, but if the cap means the insurance company has to lower that deductible as well as copayments, then they will either raise premiums to make up the loss or go out of business.

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Josh G's avatar

Of course she can promise a lot, but so much of this would be funded by tax increases such that it wouldn’t survive congress.

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Dean V's avatar

You like her housing ideas? Giving $25k to new home buyers will cause home prices to go up by $25k.

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Doug S.'s avatar

Probably not the full $25k, because not everyone would qualify.

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Dean V's avatar

Ok. It’s still an awful idea. Helps no one except maybe the politician who gets a few votes.

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Dean V's avatar

And what about the idea of preventing “price gouging”? It’s dumb AF. First off, market prices are a signal. If you want to fill a tank of gas where no gas is available, guess what? To induce a supplier to take the risk and drive into a hurricane’s zone of destruction, he will need to be compensated! Otherwise… no gas for you! Price caps or restrictions during emergencies distort these signals, discouraging suppliers from entering high-risk areas because they can’t charge what the market demands. This leads to shortages and leaves consumers worse off. High prices, while painful, encourage supply to flow to where it’s most needed, incentivizing producers to take risks or ramp up production. Interfering with this natural market process prevents resources from reaching critical areas and prolongs the crisis.

Her ideas suck and are based on fantasy.

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Kevin Freisen's avatar

> Part 6: Measures to lower financial fees

I always see this as a reference to banks, but has any one seen the rediculous markup fees on something like a late EZPASS ticket? Whether it be real or a misread its well over whatever the bank overdraft markups are and I have never seen it referenced anywhere with regards to fees. Something the vast majority of at least the east coast deals with, has an absolutely absurd markup, and is never discussed.

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Buzen's avatar

Here’s a good personal economic plan for energy savings that I took advantage of, leveraging the $2000 federal heat pump rebate.

Don’t actually spend $12000 on a new heat pump system to get a measly $2000 back from the feds along with some minor electric bill savings. Instead take that $12000 and invest it in the stock of the big 3 heat pump makers: Lennox International (up 2.7x since 2021), Carrier Global (up 6.7x) and Trane (up 4.3x) and let other people buy the heat pumps, and the profits and sales will rise right along with those sweet government subsidies.

I did that a few years ago and did very well, (all three are up enough over the last few years to pay for a new heat pump for my house for free. Just do it before the new HFC rules that go into effect in January cause shortages and price increases.

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Greg G's avatar

Hmm, looking at the chart, I see Carrier going from 37 in 2021 to 80.8 currently. That looks like 2x, not 6.7x.

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NubbyShober's avatar

Thank you for the tip!

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Buzen's avatar

Well thanks Noah for taking the trouble of reading that whole plan and explaining it, I don’t think Kamala has read it, given that she has yet to explain any of it during the debate or any of the softball interviews she’s done.

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unrendered_junior's avatar

I actually heard about a few of these policies from speeches she has given at campaign rallies and she went into about as much depth as you can in the few minutes alloted per question in a debate that's mostly performance anyways. If you didn't know that, that's a you problem. But now you know

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Alex Marianyi's avatar

Have you checked out the most recent single from the New Welfarists?

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

I do not see much of Harris's economic policy becoming law. Both Harris and the insurrectionist will be greatly constrained by Congress in economic policy, but the insurrectionist will try much harder to evade that constraint. Harris will be willing to compromise on economic issues with Congress, but the insurrectionist will simply demand that the Republican Party do what he tells them to.

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Buzen's avatar

I agree Kamala won’t get congressional support for her plans, but Trump’s only economic policy is tariffs, which means because Congress previously abdicated all trade policy to the executive branch that he can put it through without their votes. Congress is so dysfunctional that even its past policies harm us.

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John Russell's avatar

Who was charged with insurrection? Anyone? If you are going to make accusations be accurate, not just spout a narrative.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

What is your name for the guy who tried through violence and fraudulent electoral certificates to retain power after an electoral defeat? I'd probably be happy to use it.

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Patrick M. Dennis, MD's avatar

Energy "perfect" as nuclear remains moribund?

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Noah Smith's avatar

Joe Biden has been the most pro-nuclear President of my lifetime, BY FAR.

https://x.com/Blake_Allen13/status/1840763288373576157?t=43Ipb9a89DF9z9HD6R37AA&s=19

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craig nelson's avatar

Just because he is anti fossil fuels doesn't make him pro nuke (except for Iran) . How many nuclear plants were built under Biden/harris?

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Andrew Holmes's avatar

And why did he appoint a commissioner who favors the present red tape mess? Talk’s cheap.

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Sophia Finale's avatar

My thought exactly

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NubbyShober's avatar

The perfect place for it. Dead and buried. Chernobyl and Fukushima Daichi and Ten Mile Island are proof that, despite strong industry assurances to the contrary, nuclear plants aren't worth the extreme downside risks. Y'know, like the irradiation of major metropolitan areas? On top of that there's no viable--much less cost effective--way for industry to dispose of nuclear waste, unless it dumps cleanup on the taxpayer.

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drewc's avatar

Yes, let's just breathe that coal dust nice and deep

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Andrew Holmes's avatar

A 10,000 year guarantee of safe storage, with the assumption that no one will pay any attention to it for the entire duration, is a requirement designed to block nuclear by eliminating any sane, cost-effective means of disposal.

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Kevin M.'s avatar

"Harris’ plan is to continue ... allowing fossil fuel drilling."

What are you basing that on? There is not one word in her 82-page economic policy platform that says she will work to continue to allow fossil fuel drilling. She celebrates that oil and gas output has been at all-time highs the last few years, but that is mostly in spite of the Biden-Harris administration, not because of it. Expect even more stifling of oil and gas in a Harris-Walz administration.

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Harold White's avatar

It's true that Noah Smith's favored candidate is less erratic and corrupt, but in endorsing her program (Clinton 5.0) he seems not to attend to several elephants in the room, all relating to presidential powers: Who is going to pay for these programs? Which legislators are going to vote for them? What if anything would Harris do to the almost one trillion dollar "defence" budget (other than increase it), for example funding the 50K troops in Japan and 30K troops in Germany? Attend to the Russian and Chinese threats, no doubt? Here are some pretty well known facts Mr Smith does not seem to attend to: //

As of September 2022, there are 171,736 active-duty military troops across 178 countries, with the most in Japan (53,973), Germany (35,781), and South Korea (25,372). These three countries also have the most U.S. military bases – 120, 119, and 73, respectively. Oct 25, 2023

Where in the world are US military deployed?

Chicago Council on Global Affairs //

https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/us-sending-more-troops-middle-east-where-world-are-us-military-deployed#:~:text=As%20of%20September%202022%2C%20there,119%2C%20and%2073%2C%20respectively.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Noah, calling a policy for the poor welfare, even "new welfare," is the absolute kiss of death. I haven't heard the word welfare in many a day—people manage to pronounce TANF. You might as well call it the “Dolled-up Dole."

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