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Praneet  Singh Butran's avatar

Great post as usual! As a current masters level student pursuing a "heterodox" econ degree in India, I wanted to share some of the things that I have observed in these circles. First, heterodox is insanely political by its very nature, to the point where serious, nuanced discussions can spiral down the drain very quickly. The sad part is that most of the absurdity stems from the students who have been made to believe that everything about modern econ is wrong and oppressive and blah blah (your usual marxist narrative). What ends up happening is that a typical heterodox econ class starts resembling a socio or an anthropology class, which is just tragic for reasons that are too long to list out. Second, ironically, heterodox cannot tolerate heterodox itself, because that would mean accepting the Austrians too, now show me a "Post-Keynesian" who is comfortable with that. Third, I would strongly disagree with you that heterodox deals mainly in texts as opposed to the mathematical mainstream, that is just not true. You have Kaldor, Kalecki, Sraffa and so many more who have gone beyond the usual constraints optimisation techniques and yet produced quite important theoretical work. I do agree though that some in the heterodox are unfairly against mathematical econ and therefore if one has to bet on which side will forego mathematical formalism first in a hypothethical world, it will be the heterodoxy, but still there is considerable mathematical work on both the sides. All in all, a serious form of reconciliation between the sides is needed, only then will Econ progress towards the true science it claims to be.

PS: Not too long ago on a talk of this exact topic, Arjun mentioned that you, Akerlof and him had a similar discussion on this very thing!

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Jeff Roberts's avatar

Really interesting piece.

From an outsiders perspective it’s seems that a big part of the issue is that economics is a “strong theory” discipline. Lots of effort goes into formalizing theoretical positions and building mechanisms to ensure “purity”. Lots of rituals embedded in graduate education, external language use, boundary policing, approaches to policy development and use, etc. As a result of this strong theory paradigm econ gains external credibility but opens itself to internal schisms as competing approaches appear heretical. It further opens opportunities for outsiders - like journalists - to use their own frames (eg both sides, quasi-sensationalism) to question the power associated with the strong theory position. It’s interesting. I always felt the strong theory paradigm while great for elegance and power amassing introduces a brittleness to the structure.

But what do I know, my PhD is in sociology.

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