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Scott Williams's avatar

This is not new for China. China led Europe in many respects in the 16th century, but the Emperor recognized (correctly) that the rising merchant class was a threat to his power and reined it in. This kept the Emperor the supreme power while European monarchies lost relative ground to the bourgeois. Of course, it was detrimental in the long run to technological and economic development which meant Europe conquered China rather than vice versa—but in the long run….

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I find this POV fascinating as it tracks closely to what many of my other well educated, liberalish, western friends hold and I find myself arguing with when it comes to China.

Your main thesis is that the predominant influence on any decision made by the Chinese government is their desire for power - both over their citizens and over the world.

Would this change if you approached the question with the assumption that, like many people who enter government globally, they are trying to do what they believe is best for their citizens and their nation. Yes, there are some influenced by power and influence etc, but I still believe most people entering government have an underlying patriotism. This is not something unique to the US.

If you start from that basis - which seems relatively fair given the incredible benefits that the Chinese citizens have obtained over the past thirty years (yes I’m starting from the cultural revolution onwards) and the corners they could have cut for much larger personal gain - then you can argue that rather than “they are doing it for power” that they are doing it to ensure a less divided nation, a more prosperous nation, a nation controlled by itself rather than outside interests, a nation responding to climate change.

Then you get to a more interesting argument of is this the correct way, do we see free market capitalism as better or is there something else.

If you read Joe Studwells book “How Asia works” you’ll see that they are just following the same playbook as Japan, Korea, Taiwan in reaching advanced economy stage - though with the large difference of also having a foreign policy independent to that of the US. And these all saw the tight linkage of government and business, with business often being reminded that it exists for the service of the nation (similar to US industry in the 50s and 60s).

It is hard for westerners to understand that a government may only be operating to protect its citizens and build its nation and that this doesn’t automatically doesn’t lead to conquest. Difficult because western nations have always turned to expansion and colonialisation when they have had the power.

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