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Tran Hung Dao's avatar

"Our unique success in vaccine development and mass production — notably beating out our main rival, China"

I'd like to see a whole article (from Noah or anyone really) about how the US -- "can't do infrastructure", "bad at mass manufacturing", "no industrial base", etc -- seems to have beaten China soooooooo badly on this one. The R&D? Okay, sure, expected the US to do better there. Even if its own population is hesitant to get vaccinated ... why isn't China able to produce a billion shots and do REAL vaccine diplomacy? Instead I keep reading stories like how Thailand ordered 2 million shots of Sinovac and 90 million shots of AstraZeneca. Or the Philippines got a mere 500,000 shots of Sinovac for their population of 110,000,000, good for half of 1% of the country.

I mean, we're 5 months into 2021 at this point. I'm pretty sure that Chinese factories can build iPhones faster than this. I hear stories like "China is building one gigabattery factory a week" or how China directed state capitalism is good at quickly executing mega-projects. So what's the full story here?

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Eevee Hatsumi🔹's avatar

I'm not exactly sympathetic to very strong IP rights, but I've heard that loosening (even temporarily) international IP protections for COVID vaccines wouldn't do much good for developing countries because:

- LMICs that have production capacity tend to be middle-income so they don't need the IP restrictions waived (idk about this, there are still a lot of very poor people in middle-income countries).

- LMICs that don't have production capacity wouldn't benefit from an IP waiver, at least not directly. (However, they could still benefit from lower vaccine prices coming from other countries.)

Another possible argument against waiving IP for developing countries (which I haven't heard but am making up on the spot) is that it's still an incentive for pharmas to develop vaccines that are well-suited to distribution in LMICs. For example, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine ended up being a good fit for LMICs (although they've agreed to sell it to LMICs at cost, in perpetuity).

What do you think of these counterarguments?

Also, your Bloomberg link over the text "waive intellectual property rights for other countries" doesn't say anything about IP rights for vaccines. Is that the wrong link?

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