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Tran Hung Dao's avatar

I live in Vietnam which, in many respects, is way more libertarian than the US. I imagine most developing countries are similar: the lack of state capacity just gives things a fairly minarchist tinge.

My impression is that most libertarians generally hate it. I'm in Facebook group where foreigners (usually Americans) come for free legal advice and 95% of the posts are from people wishing the government would protect them from these "local bullies".

My landlord evicted me when I got pregnant. My neighbour has a dog that barks all the time. My job took my passport and won't give it back. My job didn't pay us. Banks don't have deposit insurance. Cancelled flights don't get reimbursed. Faulty table lamp started a house fire. Bars that refill alcohol bottles with cheaper knockoffs. Etc etc etc.

Landlords and employers cause TONS of issues. And the only recourse is to hire a lawyer and sue in court.

You can guess how rarely that actually happens.

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Refined Insights's avatar

Hmmmm. This is one of the best articles I've ever read here, and there has been some fierce competition.

So, where to start?

Well, the first basic problem with people is we think in extremes and categories. Libertarianism looked at the Soviet union, rightly thought 'oh no', and went off in the completely opposite direction.

There are no such things as societies without hierarchies. There can only be democratic and undemocratic hierarchies, democratic or undemocratic power. In a country with only a notional government, everyone isn't living happily in tiny self-sustaining communities

The power vacuum is filled up with local bullies instead who in many cases are worse than governments because they are not responsible to you.

And I think it's insightful that there are two major roles they expect governments to play: protect property rights and protect people from violence.

That's basically insure our lives and insure our properties and we'll take care of the rest by ourselves.

Liberty is not the natural state of human affairs. It must be continuously managed. That, ironically enough, is the one thing that can't happen in libertarianism.

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