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Pascal Koiran's avatar

A question from a reader from overseas. Maybe I should follow American politics more closely, but I must say I first heard of the DSA on Noahpinion. How many phone booths would it take to comfortably house the whole group, assuming that there still a few of these relics standing in the world today?

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Excellent post, Noah.

I've tried to listen in to the place where I get the most awful, regular "socialist" thoughts, Chapo Trap House, and since October 7th, it's just been a steady narrative of "USA EVIL." It's laughable that some people actually take that kind of thing seriously, and it should be ignored and pilloried, with enthusiasm. Your post does an excellent job of walking the reader through where a lot of what I'll call the neo-Socialist views have led in the U.S. Hint: a lot of it has been exposed as being extremely kooky and is speaking specifically to the extremely online.

Let's hold that thought and pivot to Israel-Palestine: I've been thinking a lot about how, with this latest flare-up in Israeli-Palestinian violence, we are finally getting an example of a difficult situation that our current mess of social media-based information-sharing just cannot handle. I think that it exposes our social media sickness for what it is. What I mean by that is, the morass of social media horrors we have been dealing with for at least the last decade has finally run into a problem that it cannot handle in the way most contentious issues have been bounced around in the previous 10-odd years: it's a conflict of extreme complexity, where there are no real "good" guys, where there are a LOT of emotions involved, and where the U.S. bears some responsibility, but the degree to which it is culpable depends a lot on whom you ask.

Why I am thinking about it in this way: I happen to have an academic background in IR, and I spent a not-insignificant amount of time on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. After the 2006-2007 Gaza pull-out and rise of Hamas in Gaza, however, I just completely tuned out. I concluded that the situation was getting worse, that the two sides simply did not want a peace process to work, and that we were headed for a "new norm" of something bad. I was largely correct about this.

Now, fast-forward to today, and I've noticed a lot of social media posts, as Ian Bremmer (a political scientist and IR specialist of some note) mentioned on the 538 Politics podcast on Monday, have gotten more insane than ever. Some examples: no, the Israeli's are not an example of "colonization" in the way that cheap critical theory-based takes typify it, and what they are doing to Gaza certainly involves the idea of war crimes but it is not an example of "genocide." Hamas is not in ANY way an organization we should be sympathetic to, but yes, the Palestinian people should be sympathized with. Yes, Israel has been doing awful things to the Palestinians for decades, but also, the Palestinians have not had good leaders to advance their cause, some of them have resorted to spectacular terroristic violence against Israeli civilians, and the Palestinian people are often not even supported by their supposed-advocates in the Arab world. And I am being extremely high-level with this summary, as it is incredibly complex and full of depressing, violent history.

So, to conclude: I just watched Alexandra Pelosi's most recent documentary on HBO, "The Insurrectionist Next Door," about a number of January 6th individuals who are all going to jail for their actions that day. In interviews, Pelosi has stated that she doesn't think these people are necessarily crazy, she just thinks that they have ENTIRELY different social media feeds than the rest of us, which leads them to these crazy conclusions. Well, I think the same can be said for the particularly bad socialists, as well, and I think the recent Israeli-Palestinian flare-up serves as an excellent example of why we need to regulate, and in some cases completely dismantle, social media platforms. Again, to quote Bremmer, "I don't think that social media is the entire problem, but I do think that it is over 50% of the problem."

Am I on to something here?

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