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A quick comment on the tweet about number theory papers, which in fact noticeably understates the scope of the situation.

-- Actually 100 pages is nowhere near the upper limit.

-- Actually I *wish* I could "deeply understand" some of these papers (even ones in my own subfield!) merely by taking a semester-long course.

-- It's most of math, not just number theory, and it's not just because the papers are long. The theory required to even *state* the results is piled so deep that one cannot reasonably expect to check all of it for oneself.

-- Nevertheless, I'm surprisingly confident that most of it is basically true, even though the literature is probably filled with superficial errors. This is because it's all interconnected and everyone spot-tests bits and pieces of the edifice as they poke around in their tiny domain. A truly catastrophic problem would eventually lead to a contradiction and thus be noticed.

-- While there technically exist the *very, very rare* occasional mathematician who resists admitting error, and subfields where errors are rampant and confidence is low, the extent of uncertainty still operates at many orders of magnitude below what is normal in any other area of science; there is simply no plausible comparison. For this I am very grateful.

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Personally I think a pair of Ray-Ban’s would suit Noah better than the blue reflectors when it comes to sunglasses.

And let me join into the self congratulations I also knew that the mask thing wasn’t true. You would not believe how many Facebook arguments I got into people about that.

I think we’re scientist get in trouble is when they conflate science with social policy. My big one would be mask mandates. I’m vaccinated, and I hate masks. Now I have dug into all of the numbers, and I know that if you vaccinated do you have way less chance of getting it and spreading Covid then you would as a non-vaccinated person wearing a mask. Therefore I feel quite comfortable not wearing masks, and not guilty at all for not wearing them.

But inevitably someone will say science says you can still get Covid after you’ve been vaccinated.

Oh anyway, I digress. Vaccinations has just become this weird partisan issue.

So right now I’m working with three other Americans here in Brazil. So I took a survey and case study.

First a general observation. None of us know anyone that has died of COVID. We all know in passing one or two person who was hospitalized and released. Think coworker you see occasionally.

Me. 51. White dude. Swing voter. Trump disliker. But not liberal. Vaccinated. Did a lot of research. Never had COVID.

Engineer: 27. White Democrat. Standard. Not super liberal, but mainstream. Vaccinated. Never had COVID.

Winder 1. 35. Black. Moderate to conservative. Had COVID. Not vaccinated. Fairly knowledgeable. He figures they will tweak the vaccine in future to handle all the variants and once it’s approved will probably get it then. Knows he is somewhat protected. Comfortable with risk.

Winder 2. 35. White. Conservative. Likes Trump. Hates Biden. Had COVID. Not vaccinated. Knows he is somewhat protected. Waiting for FDA approval.

None of them had any conspiracy theories about the vaccinations. None are overly political. Conversations are about chasing Brazilians women instead of Politics. All were basically familiar with the issues. No science deniers.

Quite frankly when I spoke to them, each person seemed pretty rational to me. It was more about risk vs unknown risk.

Anyway, what the rabid vaccinator and mask preachers miss and don’t really comprehend is that even though there is a pandemic…. For the majority of people they don’t see it or experience it. Their love ones aren’t dying. Even if someone’s knows someone who died of COVID it was someone who was very old or sick already. I don’t think policy makers really grasp this. How so much of the doom and gloom comes across as overblown. This is how conservatives can rationalize not getting vaccinated.

Anyway, I am typing this on my phone, so forgive any spelling and grammar mistakes.

Winder 1 just asked for a copy of the email. May update after he reads it.

Also. There is a tweet going around talking about people having cross partisan friendships. I definitely don’t have to worry about that. I love my job and the people I work with. Long hours. Away from home. But working in Energy contributes to society. Diverse coworkers.

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