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Treeamigo's avatar

Good piece.

I saw the labor demand thing in action during the 1990s. I was posted overseas for much of that decade and probably spent only one week a year in/around my old American suburb (to check on the house I was renting out). The nearest town center to my old place was reasonably prosperous (due to suburban shoppers), the urban residents were largely African-American, but outside the main retail core there were a lot of vacant and decaying buildings in the early 1990s.

By the late 1990s, all those commercial buildings were occupied - there was a Salvadoran pupusa place, a Colombian restaurant, Honduran tamales, grocery stores, clothing stores, etc. There was a construction boom in the 90’s (low interest rates) that attracted a lot of immigrant workers. Those workers spent money.

However, the influx of willing, hard working people loathe to jump from job to job (which was the norm for low wage Americans did in the 1970s and 80s, and many were not particularly reliable or hardworking) most certainly drove marginal Americans out of the workforce.

Moreover, immigrants don’t just go to boom towns- they go to industries looking for that type of reliable low wage labor. Forlorn Midwestern grain elevator towns have lots of migrants. Midwest Cattle slaughterhouses are entirely staffed by migrants. Chicken processing across the rural southeast is all staffed by migrants.

That ready and willing workforce supplanted any hope of locals getting hired, and quickly the situation became one where non-Spanish speakers would not be hired. However, let’s be honest, the firms would have had to invest in training locals (from high school onward)- but why invest in training when hard workers can be found cheaply?

Effectively, the illusion of cost less government deficit spending has made it easier for low end American workers to leave the workforce and be replaced by more reliable immigrant labor.

There is a different scenario - one in which companies invested in training, internships and apprentices and people were given government incentives (or requirements) to work rather than being paid not to work.

This is especially important because a good portion of the second generation of these hard working immigrants become marginally employable low status workers themselves, adopting the worst habit of Americans.

I am pro-immigration (coming from illiterate, immigrant stock myself- none of my grandparents went to college, only half attended high school), but the idea of an immigration policy that allows uneducated people to stream over the border on the basis of walking proximity to the border is insanity and is driven by politics, not policy, logic or common sense.

The US is very attractive - immigrants from Africa, Asia, Europe and South America want to come here (in addition to the Mexicans and Central Americans that can walk here). There should be a lottery and only provisional permission for uneducated migrants around the world (meaning more people from Africa and Asia than Latam, and more from Brazil or Argentina than Mexico or Honduras) as well as educated migrants on more permanent permits. Having a diverse set of migrants will also prevent the continued expansion of the Spanish-speaking monoculture prevalent in low wage industries (where non Spanish speakers are discriminated against in hiring) and perhaps result in greater use of English as lingua Franca in these workplaces.

I think of we had a global lottery, e-verify, deported illegals, etc a lot more people would be pro-immigration. The craven politics of immigration and the uncontrolled nature of it is what has many people opposing it.

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Jeffrey L Minch's avatar

It is pandering, offensive, simplistic, and unsophisticated to suggest that people are "anti-immigration."

I am wildly enthusiastic about LEGAL immigration--we should allow any person who is educated in teh US in a STEM degree program to stay in the US forever -- not so much about illegal immigration and what it implies: a broken border, gross inflows of deadly fentanyl, criminal activity, and gargantuan funding for the cartels/coyotes.

Unfortunately, these other serious societal impacts have become hopelessly interwoven with the issue of immigration because of their geographical location. Had the prior administration's wall been completed, and had DHS appropriately staffed the wall, all of these problems would have been favorably impacted whilst still providing ample flexibility for Joe Biden to impose whatever unlawful policy he desired.

All I want as to illegal immigration is to enforce the God damn existing laws. What is wrong with that? A POTUS swears an oath to do just that.

What we learned during the Pandemic is that the EXPERTS got it entirely wrong. The studies you cite are either of such narrow focus -- case in point the Mariel Boatlift from Cuba -- or over such a short period of time as to be inconclusive.

What I do know from living in Texas and being in the real estate development/construction business is this -- craft and labor wages are depressed by massive amounts of illegal labor being used by legitimate contractors in every trade. I built high rise buildings in ATX and that is the voice of actual experience on the ground.

I lost a considerable amount of money in another business because I hired legal workers and provided health insurance whilst my competitor worked illegal labor hard.

From a micro perspective:

1. In Austin by God Texas, 25 years ago I paid a very capable stone mason $25/hour to build a small stone wall along the edge of my property in Pemberton Heights. He did a superb job.

2. A few years later, I paid $25/hour to a crew of masons who built an 8' wall around my backyard and pool, pool equipment. Bloody work of art.

3. A year ago, I paid $20/hour to a very capable stone mason to build a matching wall to the one that I built 25 years ago. Fabulous job.

In 25 years, wages for stone masons went from $25 to $20/hour. Why?

Because every illegal coming across the border knows how to set rock.

You cannot inject 5,000,000 low skill, low wage expectation workers into an economy and expect there to be no impact on wages when they are competing for jobs.

The fiction that these low wage earners are stimulating the economy is nonsense. The largest source of revenue in Mexico is illegals sending money home. They are not spending it in the US and they have limited funds with which to do it.

Know what is true? The incredible burden placed on property owners to pay property taxes to build schools and educate these illegal children.

Then, again, if we all stand 6' away from each other and wear a paper mask we can defeat Covid.

Expert opinion must be taken with a grain of salt as big as a Cybertruck.

Happy New Year

JLM

www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com

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