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Lars Doucet's avatar

Do you (or any readers) know anyone who has gotten their PhD later in life, like in their 30s or later? Did they think it was worth it? If you want to study and use applied economics under what circumstances do you really need a degree?

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My PhD is in economic development and public policy from the MIT Dept. of Urban Studies and Planning, which requires grad students to design their own fields. I was interested in design/implementation of federal/state industrial policy, not a focus that fit well in traditional economic departments. I found them to be disinterested, sometimes antagonistic, to industrial policy and not particularly interested in the skills required to transform economic research into policy. The great thing about the DUSP program was that I could take courses anywhere across MIT and Harvard and took a number of econ and business courses with the great and near-great.

I started my PhD program at 30 (in 1980) and graduated at 37. In between, I started Mt. Auburn Associates, a regional economic development consulting firm -- our first clients included Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas and Mayor Bernie Sanders of Burlington, VT. In the firm's name, I received a grant from the U.S. Commerce Department to carry out research that was the basis for my dissertation.

I found that being an older grad student worked to my advantage because I had more confidence in myself and my ability to be entrepreneurial. Any PhD program has the potential to be dangerous to one's mental and financial health -- because it is progressively isolating and carries high financial opportunity costs during years when many of one's peers are integrating themselves into family and workplace at decent pay. So it's important, I find, not to have magical thinking about what happens at the other end. That said, to Noah's larger point, most folks coming out of economics programs are able to land on their feet, which is not as much the case in humanities disciplines.

It very much helped that I did not want to be a tenure-track academic, so wasn't concerned about getting into peer-reviewed journals and other forms of approval from tenured academics. Many entry-level jobs requiring a PhD are inside a sometimes brutal pecking order -- I loved not having to worry about that.

I left Mt. Auburn in 1995 to go out on my own, got hired by Brookings in 2004, and became a research professor at George Washington University in 2011. In one form or another, I've run a fee-for-service consulting operation for 37 years. Currently, I'm a public policy research professor at George Washington University, which means I only get paid from the grants and contracts I bring to the university. Technically I'm a university employee, with medical benefits and retirement contributions, and functionally I'm self-employed -- my paycheck varies from month to month depending on open projects. When I was hired, I was asked to set my own salary, as the university doesn't care -- it's incumbent on me to raise it. I'm very happy as a research professor and highly recommend it for people who are comfortable running their own academic business.

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