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Brent Hartinger's avatar

If I'm reading this correctly, CRT is -- at least for some -- calling for a fairly complete dismantling of classic liberalism and rationalism, not to mention many of the founding principles of the Enlightenment. Which is fine! Argue that! I'm pro-free-speech! But, well, this isn't that different from what a lot of conservatives are *saying* CRT is (amid some hysteria and often overt racism). And, yeah, it does feel awfully Marxist in its vibe. But beyond that, I kinda agree with the conservatives on at least the parameters of the debate: if we're going to radically alter civilization -- and I'm having a hard time coming up with a more radical perspective than the one that's being argued here -- shouldn't this be debated? If we're going to use these ideas to inform school curriculums -- and it seems to me like we already definitely are -- shouldn't every aspect of this world-view be open to at good faith dialogue? But I feel like I've read 50,000 articles, even this one, sort of, where I'm told that the debate over CRT is, mostly, just white backlash and grievance, or about not wanting slavery taught in schools. This feels like gaslighting. And any criticism is invariably defined as some form of racism. There is DEFINITELY a lot of bad faith criticism of CRT, but I sure don't feel like I read very many "good faith" defenses. I keep arguing: Hey, I agree with some of what you say, but some of your conclusions are really out that, what you're saying is really, really radical. But the answer always seems to be some form of: No, it's not, and it's racist to say that. That feels like a terrible way to change anyone's mind or ever win this debate.

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I might have misunderstood the author's point, but I think that this piece, and most of the discussion about "objectivity," misses a very important point. Evaluating the truth of positive statements is very different from evaluating the truth of normative ones.

An example of a positive statement is "this building will stand only if it is constructed using concrete." It's possible to evaluate the truth of this statement objectively. An easy way to do it would be to attempt to construct the building using some material other than concrete. The truth of the statement does not depend on whether the inventor of concrete was an anti-racist paragon or a genocidal maniac.

An example of a normative statement is "constructing this building is good for society." There is no obvious way to evaluate this statement in an objective way. We need to agree on an entire moral philosophy before doing so, and there's no way to empirically test which moral philosophy is "correct." We therefore might doubt a normative claim made by a genocidal maniac merely on the basis of that person's character.

The issue in this article is that the author makes the implicit assumption that ALL of social science is about making normative statements. He then cites negative aspects of Western culture (like colonialism and oppression of natives) in order to cast doubt on the entire process of producing social science.

Notwithstanding the fact that you'd be hard-pressed to find any culture that doesn't have war and destruction in its past, social science often asks questions with objective answers. For example, one might be interested in the employment effects of increasing the minimum wage (independently of whether such laws are normatively good). These types of claims made by social science can't be dismissed on the basis of Western culture's depravity. So, we might not be able to decide whether white supremacy or anti-racism is objectively right, but the conclusion that we should discard objectivity entirely is unwarranted and potentially destructive.

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