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fredm421's avatar

I really would like to see more work on the Afghan refugees issues re. crime. For example that BBC report, based on German statistics, seems to disagree with your conclusions.

Punchline : "When it comes to violent crime, 10.4% of murder suspects and 11.9% of sexual offence suspects were asylum-seekers and refugees in 2017. This is despite their population representing just 2% of Germany as a whole".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45419466

It's certainly true that Europeans aren't keen on more Muslims coming in Europe. I'd like to point out that Muslims are maybe 8-10% of the French population and, regardless of whether the bulk of the integration problem is due to racist natives or to communitarian immigrants, the result is that we have a badly integrated Muslim minority and the issues that this situation creates don't seem to resolve over time.

I used to say it was very comparable to the problems generated by the Hispanic/Latin/Mexican immigration in the US at the height of the pushback of 90s/early 00s but that seems to have calmed down quite a bit - with Hispanics eventually integrating just like other immigrant waves before them.

We don't seem to be able to achieve that integration in Europe...

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I very much agreed with Noah’s post last year “Love It and Leave It”. I would add that travelling in other countries also gives us some perspective on our homeland that we would not otherwise have. Yesterday’s post made me think about what I have learned about my country and myself from immigrants I have known. When I was in grad school, one of my fellow students who was from a repressive nation said to me, “You Americans are so lucky to have your Bill of Rights.” I have to say that I had never given the Bill of Rights much thought; it was something I had to learn about in a high school government class. But, as my friend pointed out, I’ve never lived in a fascist country.

I have worked in the high tech field. One of my colleagues, from a European country, told me that she had inquired about a job in her home country and was told the job was for men only. When she told them that would be illegal in the United States, she was told she could return to the US. Another female colleague, a university professor, told me that in her country, the male members of her family practice professions such as medicine and engineering, while the women do not attend school past about the sixth grade. She told me how lucky I am to have been born here.

That said, I have to mention that in my experience issues such as sexual harassment have been more common when I have dealt with men from countries where women have a lower status than in the US. American men are either more enlightened or better socialized.

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